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Eating breakfast so late this morning totally messed up my lunch-making mojo. When I went to pack my lunch to take with me to NuVal, I wasn’t very hungry at all. Nothing seemed appetizing with a recently-filled belly. ๐Ÿ˜• But, I knew that I would want something to eat while there, so I packed a light lunch. (Apparently, I already used this post title back in October 2008, which is why this one is called “Light Lunch 2.” I love reading old posts! ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

To start, I loaded up on nutrients with carrots, celery, and red bell pepper crudites.

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Then, I had a vanilla-flavored Siggi’s yogurt with Uncle Sam cereal mixed in.

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And, finally, I threw in an orange and Vega bar.

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Light, yet satisfying.

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Marathon on My Mind

So, I’m debating running a marathon in the fall. After running a 1/2 marathon with bursitis last spring, I vowed never to run long distances again. But, now that my hip is better and my body is stronger, I’m considering crossing this life goal off of my list. Am I crazy? I sort of think I am, but this goal will always “haunt” me, ya know? At the same time, however, is it worth possibly injuring myself again? Has anyone overcome an injury to run a marathon? If you are a marathoner, do you think the time, training, and pain (???) is worth it?

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111 Comments

  1. Definately check with you Dr. Train and see how it goes, listen to your body. Have you thought about walking it instread of running it? No shame in walking. Just an idea to think about.

  2. I actually got the exact same injury as you while training for a Marathon… After taking time off to heal, I began training again. Like you it was a life goal of mine. When I began training again, I just made sure to take it slow and build up gradually on mileage. Well I am happy to say that 4 months later, I ran my first marathon, the Rock and Roll New Orleans in April of this year. Not only did I rock the marathon with 4:04, I was not even sore the next day, not even in my hip! I think the most important thing was to take it slow and listen to my body. I had a training plan, but if one day my hip felt a little off, I would skip the run and just make my next run stronger. I say, go for it! The experience is well worth the time and dedication. I am already signed up for number two!! Good luck!

  3. Hi Tina,
    I’ve been a reader for long time, not so much a commenter. I was inspired by a lot of blogs (including yours) to start my own after spending a year training for the NYC marathon. I lost 30 pounds in the process and gained a ton of perspective. Anyway – I overcame a HUGE injury – a torn calf muscle came back to haunt me 6 weeks before the marathon. I had planned for years to run this and felt so unfair since I had worked for months running. However, with the support of an awesome PT and friends and family, I finished it! It was about an hour off from my goal time but the important part is that I finished it (plus next time will be a guaranteed PR!).

    I say definitely do it – crossing the finish line was like no feeling I can describe! Just get a good PT in advance, a foam roller, and a ton of ice bags (because everything is going to hurt) and do it!

    Danielle

  4. I DID run a marathon when I was dealing with pretty bad IT Band Syndrome. I wouldn’t necessarily recommend anyone doing that…it set me back quite a lot. Since then, I’ve attempted training for two more marathons…and each time, I’ve developed ITBS again ๐Ÿ™ I’m not doing anything “wrong”; unfortunately, my body doesn’t seem to like it when I run long distances more than twice a week.

    That was only MY experience, though. You can full well train for a marathon after you’ve been injured! The key is to take a sensible approach to training — don’t set out with unrealistic goals or commit to an overly intense training plan. When it comes to training, slow and steady wins the race ๐Ÿ˜‰ (Yes, that was very lame).

  5. I highly recommend doing a marathon. Like someone else has stated, marathons (and better yet, running in general) is not for everyone. Regardless, you have already done a half marathon, so that says something about you already. I did my first half marathon with the purpose of just that- I wanted to do a half and be done. I finished the half and decided that day I wanted to do a full marathon. Training for full marathons are much more difficult and requires a lot of time, as well as a new routine, but completely worth it in the end. Half marathons are more realistic in terms of balancing having a life and training, but once again- it is completely worth it! I did the NY marathon in 2007 and decided if I was going to put all of that energy and effort into something I was going to raise money for a charity while doing it so I raised money for cancer- just another idea if you decide to go forward. Good luck and I look forward to your decision!

  6. i HATED the first two months of training for my first half. i was even in constant physical pain in my feet and ankles. suddenly a month before, everything clicked. the pain was gone. when i was crossing the finish line, i immediately decided i could do it again. full or bust in ’10! no regrets.

  7. I say do it! I ran Boston last year and I am not what you would consider a marathon runner. I would absolutely recommend running with a team to train though, I ran with the Arthritis Foundation and the coach was amazing. I believe they have both Fall and Winter programs for people running in various races. The support of teammates made it seem a little less crazy and also the experience of having someone who has done quite a few races is what I believed kept me injury-free during my training. Good luck!

  8. Tina! Love your blog! As far as the marathon goes, my advice is to wait longer. Pick a couple of other half marathons that interest you (either because of their location, or theme or whatever).The training required for a marathon compared to a half is huge (I feel). It kind of takes over your life. It is an amazing feeling, but it comes with a cost. Right now it would seem you are busy enough – do you really want to stress yourself out with this? Maybe have some fun trying something else. Give yourself another season and then reevaluate.
    Just my two cents worth! Keep yourself feeling healthy and strong. I have taken up to 3-4 years between marathons (actually haven’t done one at all in years), but when I was training I was constantly injured and constantly stressed. Looking back I realize I could have been having fun doing so many other things (without the stress)

  9. i have run 4 marathons (most recently this december) and did struggle with multiple consecutive injury-ridden training cycles, particularly between my 3rd and 4th. here is a very brief summary of advice:

    1) by all means, if you’re interested in doing it, make an attempt! and do as much as you can do to aim for success ( which for a first race is usually defined as crossing the finish injury-free!). measures to do this include increasing mileage gradually, running 3-4x/week and cross training, getting adequate rest/fuel, and most importnatly, never running through pain!

    2) consider it just that — an attempt. you can always make another one! in my opinion, if you do develop an injury, it is NOT worth slogging through it just to check something off the list. it’s worth it to just stop, regroup, heal, and plan to come back stronger with a plan tweaked to work for you. i made 3 such ‘attempts’ before successfully running my 4th marathon (PR at 3:48) and each time i got better about stopping BEFORE the injury got really bad.

    3) this may be controversial for some — i just want to say that marathons are fun, obviously good for certain types of fitnes, and can be a great social outlet. but there is nothing heroic or lifechanging about them, particularly for people who are already relatively fit (unless you are in the olympics or something ๐Ÿ™‚ ) ! once i realized this, it sort of took some of the pressure OFF in a way. sure, i would love to improve, but it’s all just a fun hobby for most of us. a somewhat addicting one, too!

    this is not to knock marathons or marathoners — again i love training for them, running them, and plan on doing more! if you do decide to go for it, it will be fun to read about your training plans and progress as your endurance increases.

  10. I do NOT think you are crazy at all!!! I’m healing from an injury right now, a stress fracture, and i’m on bed rest and crutches. But I vow that I AM going to run a marathon one day. It might not be easy and it might take some time to get strong enough but I WILL. So i say, go for it while you can!!! Definitely talk to your Doctor first and take it easy and add plenty of cross training. But I’ve heard many stories of people overcoming HORRIBLE injuries (think getting hit by a car!) to run a marathon. You can do it girl!!!

  11. Running a marathon sounds like it’s something you need to go for if it’s one of your goals. I’d talk to your doctor and go from there. If he/she gives you the thumbs up, I’d say go for it. You never want to live life saying “what if?”.

  12. So here is what I suggest. Ask yourself why you want to run a marathon. Be TOTALLY honest with yourself as to why it is important to you. Then weigh out the possibility that you might injure yourself and then decide if it is worth it. As a marathoner I can honestly tell you that it is no joke. The training is intense, the race is hard (physically AND mentally) and it really is something that takes an extreme amount of heart. If you do run a marathon then GOOD FOR YOU but if you don’t that is okay too. It doesn’t make you any less of a person, an inspiration or a successful person. Sometimes you just have to weigh what is most important to you and make decisions from there. Goodluck!

  13. I had to drop out of my first marathon only 5 weeks before race day because of a foot injury. I was devastated. But a few years later after letting my body mature a little and getting stronger (doing more strength training), I ran my first marathon just last October! It was definitely worth all the time and energy to train, espeically since I did all my training with friends and ran the first 20 miles of the race with a friend (which is definitely the way to go if you can!). I still had some injuries pop up during training so I just vowed that if I was going to make it to race day, I would have to work closely with my PT to make sure I didn’t injure myself beyond repair. I think you have to be willing to ask for help early on if you start to feel pain.

    I actually just posted about my ups & downs in my relationship with running on my blog last night and there’s a link to my marathon experience on there if you want to check it out.

  14. Oh do it!! It is worth it! I’m running my first marathon in 2 weeks, and although I think running race is pretty cool, it is all about the runs that get you there. I know this is going to nag you for the rest of your life if you don’t. Just don’t go crazy overtraining and be consistent. That will help you stay injury free. Stretch. You can do it!

  15. I am just a month away from my second marathon and am super excited! I was injured (patella tendonitis) during my first one and it was extremely painful. I yelled, cried and seriously thought of quiting but I made it to the finish line. It is an amazing experience to cross the finish line at your first marathon…or really any marathon. Soon I forgot how painful it was an have trained completely differentially than I did last time for the marathon I have next month.

    It’s all about having the right plan and not increasing your mileage or speed too fast. Oh and cross training, that’s extremely important. I would totally go for it!

  16. Oh okay. I figured your lunch was around 400? I’m trying to figure out what size lunch works best for me because I usually seem to end up on the low side.

  17. Hey Tina, I have been reading your blog for a while now and love it! I actually just ran my first Marathon last weekend, the Shamrock in Va Beach! This was the best challenge of my life and I would suggest you go for it. I ran with Team in Training and got a lot of great support. I also had some hip pain during my training but with stretching, cross training, and some rest I was able to push through! Go for it girl!

  18. My vote is to go for the full marathon! You can totally do it. I have run 6 full marathons and always say that if I can do it – anyone can! While I don’t currently have plans to run one this year, I feel like I have been reading/hearing about so many people doing one this fall. I may get sucked in. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  19. I am in the peak of my marathon training and it has been fun, but painful at the same time! But, I am thinking that in the end it will all be worth it. So I say go for it!

  20. Hi Tina!! I just wanted to weigh in on whether or not to run the marathon. I have to say, I totally understand how this goal will be something you always wanted to do, but I’m in a very similar situation with previous injuries and have to say that I’d rather live with not achieving a goal of a race completion than forever live with a permanent (possibly multiple) injury for the rest of my life. Also, I’m in medical school and I would definitely rec talking with your doctor about it and your hip before deciding to take on a marathon. And who knows, I’ll cross my fingers for you, maybe with a good assessment you are ready for a marathon!

  21. Though I haven’t yet run a full marathon (have done three halfs), I can already tell you to do it or at least give training a try! I finally made the decision to give a full a whirl but about 9 weeks into training (which was going really well), I hit the wall. I was tired, hurting a little, anxious about runs longer than 13 miles, and my graduate school work was becoming a second priority (not cool in graduate school, as I’m sure you know). After two weeks of crying every night because I couldn’t fit runs (both physically and mentally) in and get everything else done at the same time, I switched to the half. Though I don’t regret it, I know the goal of running a full is going to haunt me! It’s just going to have to wait until after grad school. Best of luck though! You’ll make the right decision for you!

  22. I would suggest reading “The Non-Runner’s Marathon Trainer”. Even though you do run it will help with the long distances. I went from not being able to run for 5 minutes and a BMI of 34 to doing my first marathon without injury! Now I’m hooked!! I’m hopefully running one this fall too! But this time I’m starting out in much better shape.

  23. I haven’t done a full, but I have done 2 half, and after my last one I got the worse case of shin splints ever! But with that said, I can’t wait to hit the pavement again. I would love to do a full..someday.

  24. DO IT! you’ll be my hero! i just started running. i’m doing pat’s run in april. it’s only 4.2 miles. not far, but it’s a start. my goal is to do the pf chang’s half marathon next january. i think you should definitely do it!

  25. Had to post again to point out that the Mohawk Hudson Marathon is in October – it’s supposed to be super flat and it runs by (if not actually through) Schenectady. It’s a small race so there won’t be the same level of crowd support as Boston, Chicago, NYC, etc. but you also wouldn’t be tripping over crowds of people.

  26. I’m training for my 4th half right now, so those questions are fresh on my mind as well. Personally, I think a half is a great accomplishment, but unless you are a very serious runner, a full is too much. Especially with a somewhat recent injury, I would say you should stick with running 10Ks and half marathons for now. I think about the wear that a half can put on a person’s body, and can only imagine what training for (and running) a full would do.

    I am probably not really going to consider running a full until I reach the point where I am consistently running 8-10 miles at a time, and at about an 8 minute mile pace. I only add the pace constraint because if you are not at least running that fast, each training session could easily take up 2-3 hours of your evening. If you are already thinking that you have a busy schedule, imagine spending that much time running 4 nights a week!

  27. This is a life goal of mine as well. After completing my 3rd half I am set to tackle a full this fall! You can do it ๐Ÿ™‚

  28. Gahh! What an exciting idea! I think you should totally go for it! Mostly because I can just vacariously live through you and don’t have to train for one myself ;-). If your hip starts bothering you, you can always drop out.

  29. Honestly, I say scratch that goal off your list. I’ve read a lot about how marathons are actually BAD for your body, not to mention the risk of injury. It’s a very personal decision, but I would examine what your goals are and if there are accomplishments that would be better suited to you. Why not shoot for another 1/2 marathon with a better time? Just my opinion. ๐Ÿ™‚

  30. Oh Tina, the marathon is such an experience, if you can and have the desire to you must try. It is such an accomplishment, not only physically but emotionally as well. I am currently training for my 3rd marathon (actually my goal is to run 4 halfs and 2 fulls in 2010)and yes I did experience knee and IT Band injury training for my 1st then during my 2nd I had a little set back with plantar facitiis. While going through both I learned the most important thing: find professionals who can help you not only through the injury but help you stay injury free by being proactive with a preventative approach to health. I use chiropractic, A.R.T. and physical therapy. The key is finding the right people to be on your team. I feel that I am stronger now than ever, but still listen very carefully to my body and seek assistance early to help thwart the injury from progressing. Good luck on making the decision and I look forward to reading more of your blogs in the future.

  31. Wow, that is such a fantastic goal to set! I’m still nowhere near ready (or even sure if I want) to run a marathon but it’s definitely something for you to consider as long as your body feels ready for it. What a goal!

  32. I would def check with your doc. I just finished my second… marathon training is a whole other animal from HM training. Be ready to give up entire weekends to running/recovering/preparing and 4+hour runs. (hopefully you have friends to run the long runs with) And, I’m gonna be brutally honest; it hurts. I have weak hips too that I went to the PT for, and had tendinitis bursitis in my knee, and a whole slew of ITB pain. I think it’s doable for sure, and have confidence you will succeed, but the fall is coming up real quick; I gave myself 6 months to train for a full; and I was already in HM shape. And the thing with fall marathons is that you have to train in the brutal heat of summer. I know you can do what you put your mind to, but I also think you are so young; there’s no rush to do it this fall, ya know?

  33. That’s a tough decision. On the one hand, it would be fun to go for it and to at least try the training. On the other hand, I feel like if you (or if were me, if I) were to start having troubles after already committing to the idea of running a marathon, it would make it much harder to step away from it, even if that’s what your body needed. Tough call!

  34. I would definately check with the doc first. My other suggestion was how about trying another half and see how that goes and how you feel? But if the full is what you really want, motivation is half the battle. ๐Ÿ™‚ Or maybe sign up for the marathon with no pressure on time? I always think that’s wise for a first marathon anyhow. Anyhow I look forward to your decision. ๐Ÿ™‚

  35. I say do it! I was in a terrible car accident and shattered my tibia, fibula and pelvis, and broke my back, got all pinned up and went through PT (before the accident I was training for my first marathon). I trained for a marathon the following year and got stress fractures, had another surgery to get a new rod in my leg, and then ran a few half marathons that year, the following year I did my first mary, have run 2 marathons since then. You can DO anything you put your mind to! It’s all about listening to your body and knowing when to say when! GOOD LUCK!

  36. i’m not a marathon runner (or a runner) but my co-blogger christy had run the nyc marathon on a sprained ankle. she hasn’t been able to run again since, that was over 5 years ago. she’d be able to tell you more, but that’s just my observation. it’s sad!

  37. That looks like such a good meal! Good luck with the running brain! I feel like sometimes running can be more challenging mentally than anything else.

  38. Having run my very first marathon last fall, I can tell you that the time and training are very much worth it. It was one of the best feelings of my life when I finished that race. And the feeling was soo addicting that I signed up for a spring 2010 marathon only a few months later with a Boston Qualifying goal in mind.

    That being said – training with an injury can be tricky and if not done properly, it can be dangerous. As I’m training for my second marathon I’ve encountered some recent hip pain and I’ve been monitoring it closely and scaling back as necessary. If you feel strong enough and think you can scale things back if your bursitis flares up (or even scrap the whole marathon idea depending on your bursitis) then I would say to consider it. I also find that even though my long runs are long, I’m not running with the same intensity that I would a 15k race or even a half marathon, so my body works a little differently. You may find that long runs don’t bother your bursitis…or you may find out very quickly that they do. Listen to your body and your gut (no pun intended) on this one.

  39. I have a similar light lunch probably once a week – when food in my house is limited and I am in a rush to throw something together. Love muching on veggies. One of my other light time saver lunch is a peanut butter (natural) and jelly (natural with no added sugar) sandwich on a sandwich thin. mmmm

  40. 4+ hour runs??? God that sounds boring. Sorry…it just does. Again, my point- is there really nothing else to do?? I live in DC and find there’s tons to do around the city and region to keep me occupied. I feel the same is for Boston- I’ve been there several times and find exploring the city keeps me very busy whenever I visit.

  41. 100% go for the marathon!!!! My only warning is you will be hooked and it is hard to stop at just one…hence the http://www.marathonmaniacs.com site.

    Seriously though, go for it. I am not a “runners body” – 50 pounds overweight, get shin splints, bursitis in my hip. However, I have ran 6 half, 5 full and even 1 ultra marathon.

    Enjoy ; )

  42. I don’t have any experience running after an injury, but I have run two half-marathons, two full marathons, and will be running my third full in 3 weeks. I have two small children, so it means getting up super early to run and being organized with meals and training. It’s totally worth it though. Running races, especially a marathon, feels incredible.

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